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Post  Mad Frosty on Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:16 pm

How much for the old engine ?

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Post  bigkuri on Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:53 pm

TBH, I really don't know.
All I have to go on is an eBay auction last year for an unknown history engine, complete, which went for £770.
Mine is a 2006, but also an unknown history, albeit all the dosh I spent on the top end rebuild.

So I kinda hope for over £650, ideally eBay it for £800.

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Post  AURORA on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:55 am

I offer you a night of romance with Mauser for the engine! wake up 
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Post  Mauser on Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:02 am

AURORA wrote:I offer you a night of romance with Mauser for the engine! wake up 

Roses and soft music are in order lol!

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Post  Mad Frosty on Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:46 pm

It can be anything from 600 to 1200 for standard non modified used engine depending on the condition .
Considering that yours was heavily abused in the deserts of Marocco and the streets of Britain + adding your weight to the wear , i think you be looking at around the 3000 000 turkish liras + babyoil treatment from our good friend Mauser  thats funny 
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Post  bigkuri on Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:32 pm

Anything but the baby oil!! :-o

Made a clutch holder tool today out of some old plates. Besides from that waiting for a few seals to put covers back on etc...

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Post  Mad Frosty on Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:27 pm

What compression ratio is the piston in the new engine ?
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Post  bigkuri on Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:13 pm

All stock.
The engine was bought from a job-lot that JCR in San Clem where getting rid of - predominantly CRF450 parts and bikes from their actual race team. This 650 engine was literally one that had been left behind the door and inherited by JCR - as it pre-dates them forming. As far as I can tell it is just a stock engine with a few hours on it - who knows, maybe it was a shop-bike for running around. They (JCR) had no other bits, just this engine.

In the "old" engine which is now for sale I built up it is stock too, 100mm, as I had the cylinder bored and re coated to original. I like stock Smile


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Post  BuRP on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:28 am

Mauser wrote:
AURORA wrote:I offer you a night of romance with Mauser for the engine! wake up 

Roses and soft music are in order  lol!


Hmmm, I hunch there's a huuge carrot playing a role in this picture, especially when baby oil is going to be required.
And FOOI guys, with all done 'safe' these days, don't you guys know that any oil is bad for rubber???
Mind though, Turkish liras sounds very Arab already, so what about some crude oil? Men will be men after all.
LOLOLOLOL


Ol' Maus, what have you done to deserve these comments???????
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Kuri, if it weren't for the current dreadfully-sliding exchange rate I'd be interested in you 'old' motor, but will not even ask as the couriering will cost me at least an arm.... and riding like a 1armed bandit ain't gonna happen too soon I hope  BRP smile 
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Post  bigkuri on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:33 am

The other goodie I got with the new engine is a FCR41MX carb. Nice carb, but I'm finding it is almost in the "too hard" basket in terms of fitting the thing. The only real info I can find is that I need to heat and bend the right side of the fuel tank to make clearance, and fab up a trumpet in order to connect it to the airbox. Heating and bending fuel tanks is not my idea of fun! So the whole carb thing is on the "to-do" list, i.e., it'll sit on the shelf for months/years.... I suspect I should have got the TM40 which seems to be fit and forget.

Parts (new seals & gaskets etc.) should arrive next week, cannot wait Smile

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Post  Mad Frosty on Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:08 pm

I think that Kiwi has the fcr 41 installed on his beast , he might be able to give you few tips
when he comes here . I went for the mikuni for this very reason , to avoid any hassle just a straight swap and i like the carb much better than the OEM carb , the fcr supouse to be even better  nice 
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Re: My build up: Big Red Dog... ;)

Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:37 pm

Home made clutch holder Smile


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Post  Mauser on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:44 pm

That's great m8....is 1 plate going to be strong enough or do you think you will end up welding 2 together ?.

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Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:49 pm

Mauser wrote:That's great m8....is 1 plate going to be strong enough or do you think you will end up welding 2 together ?.

That is three plates welded together Smile



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Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:53 pm

A bit out of order, but an engine on a plane looks like this!



I removed all the bubble wrap packing, but you get the idea! Wink




Better watching this than telly!


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Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:55 pm

The other bits were in another suitcase, nicely wrapped




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Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:57 pm

A few bits need swapped from my UK engine

The USA spec stator




The UK spec


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Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:04 pm

Fitted new thrust bearing with the updated part



Not that you can see, but the UK spec alternator is under this shiny cover




Did the valves, never opened or touched, all within ec.,




Clutch going together




The big tool came out to torque up this!



Staked nut



Question: does the nut look far enough on? It is flush, maybe slightly raised from the shaft? Torque to 118NM


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Post  bigkuri on Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:06 pm

All buttoned up




Hopefully good weather next weekend to swap it in

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Post  Mad Frosty on Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:30 pm

Never mind the weather , keep going .
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Post  Mauser on Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:33 pm

Hmm had a look around for pictures of the staked nut but cannot seem to find anything suitable, I would feel happier knowing its right before running the bike...did you measure the stack height or just build it up and stake it ?. Like the 3 plate tool lol....was thinking you had used just 1 plate  Bump 

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Post  bigkuri on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:29 pm

Staked nut is all good Smile That is the handy thing about having two engines right now... Wink


Started stripping the bike today now we have no rain for a little bit



That nice blue Wilbers 642 shock is coming out - it squeaks, so is going back for a free fix. Seemingly it is the damper valve with a tiny obstruction - makes them squeak like a rat...




I'll strip the sub-frame, the very end loop of it is a little rusty, and the plastics need a bit of TLC.



A side question - what is the best chain to buy for the XRR?

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Post  Mauser on Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:20 pm

I like stock chains, they are up to spec and quality is good, my ZX12-R is stil on stock chain and hasn't stretched once in 5 years and 13k miles.

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Post  bigkuri on Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:40 am

Mauser wrote:I like stock chains, they are up to spec and quality is good, my ZX12-R is stil on stock chain and hasn't stretched once in 5 years and 13k miles.

I suspect I may use a tad more throttle Wink No offence!...

Chains have come a long way in last few years - go for a X-ring one?

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Post  Mauser on Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:38 pm

bigkuri wrote:
Mauser wrote:I like stock chains, they are up to spec and quality is good, my ZX12-R is stil on stock chain and hasn't stretched once in 5 years and 13k miles.

I suspect I may use a tad more throttle Wink No offence!...

Chains have come a long way in last few years - go for a X-ring one?

Fair enough but you won't have more HP than my 12  listen up   Bump 

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