Which is better , what do you think

Ok lads simple question , which one of these do you think its better

The Honda VFR 1200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8_LL8vBp4

Or the kawasaki Z1000 SX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-C7uq7y1kQ

What kind of purchace price, maintenance and riding is your goal?

BMW S1000RR

Or a beautiful ZX12R......just like mine, believe it or not people tour on these bikes !!!

hmmmm - that was a simple question but obviously still too difficult for some...  

I'd choose the VFR.

SkidMark wrote:hmmmm - that was a simple question but obviously still too difficult for some...  

I'd choose the VFR.

Not my fault someone mentioned a BMW   

SkidMark wrote:hmmmm - that was a simple question but obviously still too difficult for some...  

I'd choose the VFR.

Was going to say the same , some people   

AURORA wrote:What kind of purchace price, maintenance and riding is your goal?

BMW S1000RR

I am not after supersport got fedup with them things long time ago , they are only good for a race track and to show off . I want bike for the real world , comfy , reliable , fast , not too heavy  .... As for the BMW , well there are not many good looking bikes around these days but if you want something REALLY UGLY you must have BMW they are the worse looking bikes out there and blind people wanting to ride the badge buy them   

Saying that i do know that the S1000RR is the best supersport bike you can buy at this moment and i was shocked how nice and torquey the engine is not just in the scream zone but all the way from the bottom . But as i have said too ugly and uncomfortable riding position of a supersport  

Mauser wrote:Or a beautiful ZX12R......just like mine, believe it or not people tour on these bikes !!!

I did consider some of the big Kawasaki's , but narrowed the search to the two bikes mentioned up there for various reasons ,....
The Z1000sx its a better bike for me , for my needs as a second bike . It has won loads of Awards and i have only heard Praise from everybody about this bike , not a single complaint , cannot say the same for the honda ( which i prefer ) there are some serious issues with this bike ( what's up honda ?    ) , the biggest is the front brakes can lock while you ride the bike - not fun , rear suspension problems , i know someone who had his rear suspension unit replaced more than once ( 10 times if i remember    ) ,.... There is no such a thing as perfect bike but some have come close (    )
  

Ok.Ok.

How about a CBR1100XX  

Hayabusa...

Zoro wrote:Hayabusa...

Now you are being silly, who in the right mind would by a Bugley   

Kawasaki have a good reputation for building great engines....

AURORA wrote:Ok.Ok.

How about a CBR1100XX  

Good bike , i just never liked the looks . Also not quite there with the sport tourers ( not far thou )

Zoro wrote:Hayabusa...

Honda or Kawasaki ?       

Hayabusa , ....good bike , no need for all that power  for me  but i am sure some people would not swapp it for anything else    

Ducati ST3 or if your really lucky an ST4S.

Not ridden the touring/sport Z1000, but I have ridden it's original incarnation.

For what it's worth - my two days on a hire Honda 1200 were "ok". Nice bike. A bit too much ride by wire. Big powerful engine? (really?) Hard to tell.

The Z1000 engine is awesome. Firecrackers and nuts, and so much fun.

bigkuri wrote:Big powerful engine? (really?) Hard to tell.

No it isn't, just turn the right ear   

The big thing about the honda vfr for me is the DCT , just hate to use mechanical clutches and change gears ( hydraolic clutches are great i wish all bikes have them ( not just some pumpkins    ) for more relaxed riding .
The Kawasaki seems like a winner , everybody seems to like them , i need to test ride first as i am not sure if i fit in coz when i had the ZX9R it was too small for me . hope the Z is bigger    .

My 12 has a cable clutch and its sooooooooooooooooo smooth   

Mauser wrote:My 12 has a cable clutch and its sooooooooooooooooo smooth   

Bikes used to have cable operated brakes too once , i wonder why they dont use them anymore   

Once you go hydraolic you never go back