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French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Thu May 01, 2014 10:45 pm

Hello everybody !

Euh ... I'm french. In France we are bad in language  Very Happy 
I try to write but I would to make some mistakes !
So, I apologized  BRP smile 

I'm 19.
I make study in commerce. I'm apprentice in a motorbike shop.
I like motorbike since the first time I ride behond my father on her XLS 500 !
At 16, I pass my drivers licence for 125 and have a CBR 125.
At 18, I pass my licence for 47 horse-power and buy a GS 500.

I would make races.
So this year I choose supermotard (in France we said more Supermotard than Supermoto, I don't no for you ?) because it's less expansive than speed racing. And it's look like amazing.
I would a Honda. CRF is too expensive (not for buy but with consommation/spare parts/...)
I choose the XR 650, accurate and strong  Very Happy 

So !
I equiped my XR for racing.
I register on this forum for peak about this motorbike.
I try to read other posts an other day.
My XR is not finish. I have ride just 3 times, approximatly 4hours.
(I haven't the licence for the road, she is too strong ... so I do wait one year for ride with her on road. In this time I would make racing ! So I prepared her like this).

I posted some pictures.

When I buy it :






After my first transformations :






My first time :






In few weeks she would be finish with a real brakes system and some others features.

I wait your comments !
And ... I apologized for mistakes ... I don't use Google  Smile


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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  PeteN95 on Fri May 02, 2014 10:32 pm

Welcome, your bike looks very good. I raced roadrace (circuit race) and Supermoto for many years, you will have fun! It is called Supermotard in France because it started in America as a TV show called "The Superbikers", which translates to Supermotard. Here is a video of the old show:

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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  AURORA on Sat May 03, 2014 5:40 am

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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  Mauser on Sat May 03, 2014 8:12 am

Welcome to the forums, racing is not my thing on the 650...but as long as you enjoy it that's all that matters nice

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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Sun May 04, 2014 9:47 am

PeteN95 wrote:Welcome, your bike looks very good.  I raced roadrace (circuit race) and Supermoto for many years, you will have fun!  It is called Supermotard in France because it started in America as a TV show called "The Superbikers", which translates to Supermotard.  Here is a video of the old show:


Thank' you very much for video. It's funny ahaha !
I have'nt the explication thank's. So in USA, we said Superbiker, SB ? Very Happy

Thank's for my bike !
You make racing on a circuit like Indianapolis or in the road like the Tourist Trophy ?

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Mauser wrote:Welcome to the forums, racing is not my thing on the 650...but as long as you enjoy it that's all that matters nice

Why this is not your thing ?
Racing with racing bikes ? (because your image show that)
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  PeteN95 on Tue May 06, 2014 10:25 pm

XAmériX wrote:Thank's for my bike !
You make racing on a circuit like Indianapolis or in the road like the Tourist Trophy ?

I raced mainly on circuits, but also a few road courses like this:

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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:13 pm

Race on road ... It's a dream ...
Racing with Sportbike was too ... but it's too expensive ahaha

You are not afraid ?
Where I live we have a lot of moutain, in summer we have some race. "Course de côte" in French, I can translate like "Moutain racing".
It special because its not longer ! You are on the top of the moutain and go down. When you arrived the race start. You need to rise the moutain. There race are not longer than 5 Kilometers ( 3 miles). I would to try this but it's expensive, 100€ (130$ for just race right, you haven't tire, fuel, etc ...)
My family is against too, a lot of people die in this race. A friend have made 10 race like this; he saw 3 deaths ...

Have you some race like this ?
Or you make long races like TT ? Very Happy
I think road is most exciting than circuits, isn't it ?

I have make a lot of job on my bike.
I posted some pictures, if you are interested.
In this moment I try to update a Keihin FCR 41, settle this would to be hard ... Very Happy









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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  Mad Frosty on Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:54 pm

I like your airfilter cover hole arangement , kind of random  Bump 
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  carlgustav on Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:31 pm

XAmériX wrote:Hello everybody !

(I haven't the licence for the road, she is too strong ... so I do wait one year for ride with her on road. In this time I would make racing ! So I prepared her like this).


Too 'strong' for the road at your age, so instead, you go road racing ... what a great way to wait until you can take her on the 'road'  banana 

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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 am

Ahaha Mad, you've make the same ?
Now I would to settle the carburator, but I think that's can be good !
I like the noise with there hole !

Yeah Carlgustav Very Happy
But I would like to ride on off road ... but it's illegal ... so I would to wait.
On circuit for karting she was too "strong" and heavy too.
Maybe she can make great things on tallest circuit.
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  Mad Frosty on Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:00 pm

You can lower her and set up the suspension for the supermoto , you dont need all that suspension travel on tarmac  BRP smile 
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:48 pm

Yeah !!! That's the question today.
The last time when I ride, the bike is not good ...
I thing suspension is not good ... for each time I pass on a turn, the rear of motorbike keep not the way, I make "highside".
I think I do change the rear and front suspension.

But maybe change the motorbike ?
Because for supermoto on the land the bike is hard.
But with a better suspension maybe it's can be great ?
Someone have make this modification ? With original OEM of Honda, or the fork of a CRF maybe ?

A last information ...
My bike eat a lot of oil. I think that the piston ring.
But I have the original piston, maybe a high compression is besser ?
Change the hotcam maybe ?

In USA, or in your lands, what is the besser exhaust ?
In France we have Akrapovic but a guy who make competition sold a time some exhaust. They were perfect but today ... nowhere to be find ...

I had try the XR of a guy, he had 72 horse power on the wheel ... that was amazing ... So I would have a great motor ...

Thank's for your answers !
Maybe I would open new discussions on the forum for each questions.
For the moment, I had not search on the forum, I would to make that in few days.
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  Mad Frosty on Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:12 pm

They eat oil when ridden hard  or the engine is worn  .
The oem piston is good if you want longevity , if you after performance you need the hotcams STG 2 and high compression piston , ( XR's only have the very rare and expansive HRC piston for sale  ).
The OEM exhaust with HRC spark arrestor its actualy the best performing exhaust for the xr , but its heavy , on the original system the headers are the problem , you need unrestricted ( bigger diameter ) ones . Akrapovic was considered to be the best aftermarket exhaust system by the Sumo boys , but they are no longer made so the only way to get one would be to buy used one .
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:00 pm

When you said engine worn ? Juste the piston or hotcam ? Track rod (who was a problem on the XR) ? All of the engine ? Seriously you think ?
The first times the bike eat never oil, I ride 10 time on track and she never eat.
But the 3/4 least time she eat ... But I ride with the same intensity, so you think piston or the totally engine ?

High compression and hotcame 1 or 2 is less for longetivity obsviously but the care is already less exepensive than a 450 no ?
HRC piston is betther than a high compression like Wiseco ? A lot of better ?
Because I would performance but a longetivity too, I prefer have a stage 1 than a 2 for a better longetivity, even if the 2 is better. So if Wiseco is longetivitier than HRC ...
HRC is very expensive too ... http://www.xrsonly.com/honda-oem-piston-honda-xr650r-100mm
What is his life ? 50 hours life a CRF ? tears

The HRC spark arrestor is this ? http://www.qsl.net/n5nj/pig/hrctipin4email.jpg
Because I have actually this exhaust system with a ABP line
For the Akrapovic, this is that exhaust ?
http://tsetselis.gr/joomla/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Akrapovic________4f7cb57c0fef4.jpg

What is Sumo boys ?
I found nothing on my best friend Google Very Happy

Thank's for your answer.
I would to share our culture of XR :p
Here you had the exhaust of Patevo : http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/662821/cote%20D.jpgSo beautiful !
And here the fuel Tank of Bliatalia : http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
What tank can be put on XR ? Because I have 2 liters of reserve who can't be use ...
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Re: French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only

Post  XAmériX on Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:53 am

My engine was ugly.
The last owner had put a bad paint.
So I would to make somethinh for my poor XR BRP smile

Before :


And after a lot of hours of pain !
IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/34i2t78.jpg[/IMG]

Finished :





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You're right Mad ... found an Akrapovic is hard
I search too information to rebuild my engine, I've some things but not enough to do Very Happy
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