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XR650R Panniers racks for over 50LBS Capacity

Post  ADVJake on Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:35 am





I found these guys when i was looking for luggage capacity on the XR.
For an upcoming desert trip i have to be able to carry 50L of fuel and 12L of water.

http://www.off-the-road.de/koffertraeger_geaepcksysteme.html?&L=1

got mine on the way

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Post  badcooky on Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:06 am

Where will you be going that requires that much water and fuel?
You going across the Simpson?
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Post  ADVJake on Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:51 am

hey cooky
yep, simpson is planned for June.
interested?Very Happy

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Post  pRICK on Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:15 pm

Very interested in close up photo's when you get them. I am a tight arse and I am in the poo s--t head blah for putting a deposit on a BRP so have to make any accessories I can. Also will follow your FI thread for updates before I spend money on a TM40 or Edelbrock so maybe costs can be reduced if everything is x 2 Wink ? On Adv as pRICK as well.
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Post  badcooky on Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:21 am

Tell me your evil plan.
I'm doing the Cape in July so it'd have to be good. s--t head Oh sorry about that emo con Jake but it suits you. dummy
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Post  ADVJake on Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:45 am

ba ha ha

about 4 of us are loading up the bikes full of fuel and water and heading west, all dirt to alice springs, thats as much as i know.
the blokes know the tracks to take, i'll just follow

its over 3 weeks so its a long one
i just hope theres not too much long boring tarmac poor baby

oh and then i might do again cape york as well

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What do you think of that rack now?

Post  Matthendurocat on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm

Did you already go on your expedition? is that rack strong? How much weight did you really put on it? any problems with it? It looks like a good unit, like what I need.-Matt
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Post  Not for highway use on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:43 pm

Matthendurocat wrote:Did you already go on your expedition? is that rack strong? How much weight did you really put on it? any problems with it? It looks like a good unit, like what I need.-Matt

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Post  ADVJake on Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:57 am

didnt end up going

and sold the bike to an austrian bloke doing an around australia trip, until someone stole it, with the CRF forks and heavy duty racks on it

The racks held up well for him, with fully loaded luggage in rough trails

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thanx

Post  Matthendurocat on Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:11 pm

thanx
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Post  river on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:37 am

ADVJake wrote:didnt end up going

and sold the bike to an austrian bloke doing an around australia trip, until someone stole it, with the CRF forks and heavy duty racks on it


The racks held up well for him, with fully loaded luggage in rough trails

Can you tell us a bit more about the racks? How did they attach to the bike's frame (do you have the european bike)?
Thanks.
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I think what they are getting at...

Post  Bump on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:16 pm

Is do you have a non-USA bike with a steel subframe? The aluminum subframes over here are generally considered substandard for loading anything on.
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Post  ADVJake on Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:44 am

it was designed for use with either the USA or Euro bikes.
Its a bitch to fit, but once its on, you can carry as much as youd like.

It attaches behind the footpegs each side, and to the top subframe mount next to the shock, runs along the subframe to a back rack.
It also attached to the back bolts of the subframe, and the seat bolts.

Most of the load is sent to the main frame.

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I see where it runs all the way to the main frame.

Post  Bump on Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:17 pm

Don't crash I guess...
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Post  ADVJake on Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:57 am

If you crashed, it would merely bend the pannier frame. at worse, maybe pull a footpeg off. it wont be damaging the main frame thats for sure.

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with that much weight...

Post  Bump on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:36 am

... you will be crashing. Did you read Lawrence Hacking's To Dakar and Back? He didn't have 50+ pounds of gear on the back and he still crashed alot. And he was a top level pro racer whose resume is pretty spectacular. He was on the Yamaha payroll for awhile.
My point is that the question isn't whether or not you will crash. IMHO the question is will your elaborate scaffolding survive the crashes you will surely have. If they don't, and you have engineered your whole trip around having your XRbeastofburdenR carry all this stuff, then what happens when you are wondering how to go forward without most of it? It's not an unusual story here in the western USA. Pioneers often set out with a lot of necessary items. But all that weight was really hard on the wagons and animals. The prairies used to be littered with the skeletal remains of pianos and everything else.
At one point in Hacking's Dakar race he has to tear a piece of alloy something or other off the bike and leave it in the desert because he has no way to fix it there.
I'm probably wrong but perhaps you need a larger bike if you need to put take much stuff with you? Perhaps your ride will be better on a more rally type bike? Sometimes you just can't carry enough gas to get there on an XR650R. Hacking had this giant aluminum tank fabricated. Even then, the bike is a bit thirsty and the handling horrible.

ADVJake wrote:If you crashed, it would merely bend the pannier frame. at worse, maybe pull a footpeg off. it wont be damaging the main frame thats for sure.
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Post  ADVJake on Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:20 am

Ive crashed at 100kmh with more than 50LBS of gear on the back of a KTM 950. it tweaked the subframe abit, but in no way hindered my luggage carrying ability.
Dakar racers, on the other hand, are travelling in excess of 100MPH on sand. I have no doubt they would be doi ng more damage.
Me, however, are doing much less speeds and more about sight seeing.

This desert requires a 600KM fuel range in the deepest sands, so the only way is to pile on the fuel bladders and big acerbis tanks.
the XR650R is best suited, with some modifications due to the reliability & power. The solid steel piping of this subframe wont be easily bent in the crash. perhaps minorly bent, but in no way will the system be completely removed in a crash unless we're talking an extreme cartwheel at high speed, where a helicopter would be picking up your bits anyway.

I would take a KTM 990 in this desert, but its simply too heavy & expensive to take out there. i'll be selling it soon.

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as you can tell...

Post  Bump on Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:02 pm

From my posting on this I am particularly interested in what you are doing. Slightly because most say it is sort of impossible. But mostly because it sounds like a helluva adventure! Am anxious to see how it all turns out. I'm envious!


ADVJake wrote:Ive crashed at 100kmh with more than 50LBS of gear on the back of a KTM 950. it tweaked the subframe abit, but in no way hindered my luggage carrying ability.
Dakar racers, on the other hand, are travelling in excess of 100MPH on sand. I have no doubt they would be doi ng more damage.
Me, however, are doing much less speeds and more about sight seeing.

This desert requires a 600KM fuel range in the deepest sands, so the only way is to pile on the fuel bladders and big acerbis tanks.
the XR650R is best suited, with some modifications due to the reliability & power. The solid steel piping of this subframe wont be easily bent in the crash. perhaps minorly bent, but in no way will the system be completely removed in a crash unless we're talking an extreme cartwheel at high speed, where a helicopter would be picking up your bits anyway.

I would take a KTM 990 in this desert, but its simply too heavy & expensive to take out there. i'll be selling it soon.
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