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Post  XAmériX on Thu May 01, 2014 10:45 pm

Hello everybody !

Euh ... I'm french. In France we are bad in language  Very Happy 
I try to write but I would to make some mistakes !
So, I apologized  BRP smile 

I'm 19.
I make study in commerce. I'm apprentice in a motorbike shop.
I like motorbike since the first time I ride behond my father on her XLS 500 !
At 16, I pass my drivers licence for 125 and have a CBR 125.
At 18, I pass my licence for 47 horse-power and buy a GS 500.

I would make races.
So this year I choose supermotard (in France we said more Supermotard than Supermoto, I don't no for you ?) because it's less expansive than speed racing. And it's look like amazing.
I would a Honda. CRF is too expensive (not for buy but with consommation/spare parts/...)
I choose the XR 650, accurate and strong  Very Happy 

So !
I equiped my XR for racing.
I register on this forum for peak about this motorbike.
I try to read other posts an other day.
My XR is not finish. I have ride just 3 times, approximatly 4hours.
(I haven't the licence for the road, she is too strong ... so I do wait one year for ride with her on road. In this time I would make racing ! So I prepared her like this).

I posted some pictures.

When I buy it :
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2m35ulg

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  25q80fl

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2qt8l10

After my first transformations :
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2akidrc

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2prs7t5

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  330xlbn

My first time :
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2yydr2s

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2up9tu0

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2bxs8n

In few weeks she would be finish with a real brakes system and some others features.

I wait your comments !
And ... I apologized for mistakes ... I don't use Google  Smile


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Post  PeteN95 on Fri May 02, 2014 10:32 pm

Welcome, your bike looks very good. I raced roadrace (circuit race) and Supermoto for many years, you will have fun! It is called Supermotard in France because it started in America as a TV show called "The Superbikers", which translates to Supermotard. Here is a video of the old show:

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Post  AURORA on Sat May 03, 2014 5:40 am

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Post  Mauser on Sat May 03, 2014 8:12 am

Welcome to the forums, racing is not my thing on the 650...but as long as you enjoy it that's all that matters nice

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Post  XAmériX on Sun May 04, 2014 9:47 am

PeteN95 wrote:Welcome, your bike looks very good.  I raced roadrace (circuit race) and Supermoto for many years, you will have fun!  It is called Supermotard in France because it started in America as a TV show called "The Superbikers", which translates to Supermotard.  Here is a video of the old show:


Thank' you very much for video. It's funny ahaha !
I have'nt the explication thank's. So in USA, we said Superbiker, SB ? Very Happy

Thank's for my bike !
You make racing on a circuit like Indianapolis or in the road like the Tourist Trophy ?

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Mauser wrote:Welcome to the forums, racing is not my thing on the 650...but as long as you enjoy it that's all that matters nice

Why this is not your thing ?
Racing with racing bikes ? (because your image show that)
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Post  PeteN95 on Tue May 06, 2014 10:25 pm

XAmériX wrote:Thank's for my bike !
You make racing on a circuit like Indianapolis or in the road like the Tourist Trophy ?

I raced mainly on circuits, but also a few road courses like this:

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  Hoqium2
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Post  XAmériX on Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:13 pm

Race on road ... It's a dream ...
Racing with Sportbike was too ... but it's too expensive ahaha

You are not afraid ?
Where I live we have a lot of moutain, in summer we have some race. "Course de côte" in French, I can translate like "Moutain racing".
It special because its not longer ! You are on the top of the moutain and go down. When you arrived the race start. You need to rise the moutain. There race are not longer than 5 Kilometers ( 3 miles). I would to try this but it's expensive, 100€ (130$ for just race right, you haven't tire, fuel, etc ...)
My family is against too, a lot of people die in this race. A friend have made 10 race like this; he saw 3 deaths ...

Have you some race like this ?
Or you make long races like TT ? Very Happy
I think road is most exciting than circuits, isn't it ?

I have make a lot of job on my bike.
I posted some pictures, if you are interested.
In this moment I try to update a Keihin FCR 41, settle this would to be hard ... Very Happy

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  14dg1ac

French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2uxuzd2

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Post  Mad Frosty on Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:54 pm

I like your airfilter cover hole arangement , kind of random  Bump 
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Post  carlgustav on Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:31 pm

XAmériX wrote:Hello everybody !

(I haven't the licence for the road, she is too strong ... so I do wait one year for ride with her on road. In this time I would make racing ! So I prepared her like this).


Too 'strong' for the road at your age, so instead, you go road racing ... what a great way to wait until you can take her on the 'road'  banana 

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Post  XAmériX on Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 am

Ahaha Mad, you've make the same ?
Now I would to settle the carburator, but I think that's can be good !
I like the noise with there hole !

Yeah Carlgustav Very Happy
But I would like to ride on off road ... but it's illegal ... so I would to wait.
On circuit for karting she was too "strong" and heavy too.
Maybe she can make great things on tallest circuit.
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Post  Mad Frosty on Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:00 pm

You can lower her and set up the suspension for the supermoto , you dont need all that suspension travel on tarmac  BRP smile 
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Post  XAmériX on Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:48 pm

Yeah !!! That's the question today.
The last time when I ride, the bike is not good ...
I thing suspension is not good ... for each time I pass on a turn, the rear of motorbike keep not the way, I make "highside".
I think I do change the rear and front suspension.

But maybe change the motorbike ?
Because for supermoto on the land the bike is hard.
But with a better suspension maybe it's can be great ?
Someone have make this modification ? With original OEM of Honda, or the fork of a CRF maybe ?

A last information ...
My bike eat a lot of oil. I think that the piston ring.
But I have the original piston, maybe a high compression is besser ?
Change the hotcam maybe ?

In USA, or in your lands, what is the besser exhaust ?
In France we have Akrapovic but a guy who make competition sold a time some exhaust. They were perfect but today ... nowhere to be find ...

I had try the XR of a guy, he had 72 horse power on the wheel ... that was amazing ... So I would have a great motor ...

Thank's for your answers !
Maybe I would open new discussions on the forum for each questions.
For the moment, I had not search on the forum, I would to make that in few days.
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Post  Mad Frosty on Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:12 pm

They eat oil when ridden hard  or the engine is worn  .
The oem piston is good if you want longevity , if you after performance you need the hotcams STG 2 and high compression piston , ( XR's only have the very rare and expansive HRC piston for sale  ).
The OEM exhaust with HRC spark arrestor its actualy the best performing exhaust for the xr , but its heavy , on the original system the headers are the problem , you need unrestricted ( bigger diameter ) ones . Akrapovic was considered to be the best aftermarket exhaust system by the Sumo boys , but they are no longer made so the only way to get one would be to buy used one .
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Post  XAmériX on Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:00 pm

When you said engine worn ? Juste the piston or hotcam ? Track rod (who was a problem on the XR) ? All of the engine ? Seriously you think ?
The first times the bike eat never oil, I ride 10 time on track and she never eat.
But the 3/4 least time she eat ... But I ride with the same intensity, so you think piston or the totally engine ?

High compression and hotcame 1 or 2 is less for longetivity obsviously but the care is already less exepensive than a 450 no ?
HRC piston is betther than a high compression like Wiseco ? A lot of better ?
Because I would performance but a longetivity too, I prefer have a stage 1 than a 2 for a better longetivity, even if the 2 is better. So if Wiseco is longetivitier than HRC ...
HRC is very expensive too ... http://www.xrsonly.com/honda-oem-piston-honda-xr650r-100mm
What is his life ? 50 hours life a CRF ? tears

The HRC spark arrestor is this ? http://www.qsl.net/n5nj/pig/hrctipin4email.jpg
Because I have actually this exhaust system with a ABP line
For the Akrapovic, this is that exhaust ?
http://tsetselis.gr/joomla/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Akrapovic________4f7cb57c0fef4.jpg

What is Sumo boys ?
I found nothing on my best friend Google Very Happy

Thank's for your answer.
I would to share our culture of XR :p
Here you had the exhaust of Patevo : http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/662821/cote%20D.jpgSo beautiful !
And here the fuel Tank of Bliatalia : https://2img.net/h/i131.photobucket.com/albums/p285/xritalia/varie/blitalia/max2.jpg
What tank can be put on XR ? Because I have 2 liters of reserve who can't be use ...
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Post  XAmériX on Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:53 am

My engine was ugly.
The last owner had put a bad paint.
So I would to make somethinh for my poor XR BRP smile

Before :
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  2z821ro

And after a lot of hours of pain !
IMG]https://2img.net/h/oi61.tinypic.com/34i2t78.jpg[/IMG]

Finished :
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  Dzitd
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  E5fkeh
French XR 650 Supermoto for Racing Only  Mcgfh5


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You're right Mad ... found an Akrapovic is hard
I search too information to rebuild my engine, I've some things but not enough to do Very Happy
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