Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
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Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Got myself a (second) BRP 05 and want to prepare it for a long trip with luggage.
Would be great if you can help me during this proces.
Back in the days when i bought my first BRP the best resources were Pig Pen and Borynacks so i went back on the interweb and found : Pig Pen / BRP issues
Question : are there more issues you would check / tackle ?
Would be great if you can help me during this proces.
Back in the days when i bought my first BRP the best resources were Pig Pen and Borynacks so i went back on the interweb and found : Pig Pen / BRP issues
Question : are there more issues you would check / tackle ?
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Luggage..... NO hard luggage bro, soft stuff only!
Your subframe will love you for it, and a Giant Loop will store whatever you'll need unless you need to take the Parrot, Granny and the kitchen sink with you.
Your subframe will love you for it, and a Giant Loop will store whatever you'll need unless you need to take the Parrot, Granny and the kitchen sink with you.
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Hi BuRP,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I wil NEVER use hard luggage again since i once hurt my lower leg badly on a aluminium case.
Soft luggage it will be and we try to make something like this to support the subframe.
https://www.off-the-road.de/out/pictures/generated/product/1/900_600_85/otr_koffertraeger_pannier_rack_honda_xr_650_r_1.jpg
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I wil NEVER use hard luggage again since i once hurt my lower leg badly on a aluminium case.
Soft luggage it will be and we try to make something like this to support the subframe.
https://www.off-the-road.de/out/pictures/generated/product/1/900_600_85/otr_koffertraeger_pannier_rack_honda_xr_650_r_1.jpg
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Yo Leo,
then consider yourself lucky, as loads of guys break their legs as a result of hard panniers!
For those not knowing this, when you threaten to fall you stick a leg out... which then, planted on the ground will get under the pannier - logically so, they're shite things made for BMWs & Harleys only!
However, that's actually not why I mentioned it: hard luggage "hammers" on the subframe of bikes, they instantaneously put pressure with all their might (a hammer blow!) contrary to soft luggage which will deform during suspension-impacts, which therefore deliver a longer pressure rather than a single short blow..... and XRR-owners must know that our subframes are NOT suited for loading with any luggage, it is simply too weak for such.
Your 'reinforcing'-choice seems a nice one, pls post a pic when done
then consider yourself lucky, as loads of guys break their legs as a result of hard panniers!
For those not knowing this, when you threaten to fall you stick a leg out... which then, planted on the ground will get under the pannier - logically so, they're shite things made for BMWs & Harleys only!
However, that's actually not why I mentioned it: hard luggage "hammers" on the subframe of bikes, they instantaneously put pressure with all their might (a hammer blow!) contrary to soft luggage which will deform during suspension-impacts, which therefore deliver a longer pressure rather than a single short blow..... and XRR-owners must know that our subframes are NOT suited for loading with any luggage, it is simply too weak for such.
Your 'reinforcing'-choice seems a nice one, pls post a pic when done
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
BuRP wrote:Yo Leo,
then consider yourself lucky, as loads of guys break their legs as a result of hard panniers!
I was very lucky indeed. I could not walk normal for 2 days during that holiday.
BuRP wrote: XRR-owners must know that our subframes are NOT suited for loading with any luggage, it is simply too weak for such. Your 'reinforcing'-choice seems a nice one, pls post a pic when done
I did research on the internet and saw a lot of warning signs from broken subframes. Even considered buying a complete steel subframe from globetrottin.com but that is a permanent solution and a wanted a removable for when i am not on a holiday but on a SM track / offroad trip for instance.
When we get started with that project i will post pictures.
For now i am building a replica renazco / fishersaddlebag / seats concept saddle. The OEM seat is to small for my butt
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[quote="LeoXR"]
All here know Dutchmen are tight-arses, they're either notorious or renowned for this fact all over the world.
Know how the copper-wire was invented?
A Scotsman and a Dutchmen fought over a cent!
Strange then that you wanna splash on a Seats Concepts seat, they're not really cheap hmm?
If some Focker here feels I'm insulting your nation then know this: je rijdt eigenlijk een wat zeldzame motor voor dat lage landje, niet dan? Houwe zo!
Yes, that was a helluva insult too, but enjoy the old girl in any case, she's a cracker!
BuRP wrote:The OEM seat is to small for my butt
All here know Dutchmen are tight-arses, they're either notorious or renowned for this fact all over the world.
Know how the copper-wire was invented?
A Scotsman and a Dutchmen fought over a cent!
Strange then that you wanna splash on a Seats Concepts seat, they're not really cheap hmm?
If some Focker here feels I'm insulting your nation then know this: je rijdt eigenlijk een wat zeldzame motor voor dat lage landje, niet dan? Houwe zo!
Yes, that was a helluva insult too, but enjoy the old girl in any case, she's a cracker!
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BuRP wrote: Know how the copper-wire was invented?
A Scotsman and a Dutchmen fought over a cent!
Never heard this one before and it`s a realy good one !
We are known to be cheapass ya.
And so , following a good tradition, i am building a seat myself that looks ( i hope ) very like one of the above
You are also right about the fact that a xr650r is a rare enduro beast in the Netherlands.
It`s mostly driven as a SM overhere.
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Progress sofar :
The backside every bold / bearing checked or put in new (waterproof) grease. When the back is put together the front wil get the same treatment including new springs and oil.
Ordered some stiffer springs for back and front with Hyperpro
The backside every bold / bearing checked or put in new (waterproof) grease. When the back is put together the front wil get the same treatment including new springs and oil.
Ordered some stiffer springs for back and front with Hyperpro
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Time flies. blink ones and your 4 weeks further.
The back is now completely serviced and the progressive backspring is placed.
The front forks have been cleaned.
The 12 year old OEM oil was turned into yellow syrup and smelled like sh.t
Cleaning was not a pleasent yob. Took some days.
Went for 5W because of the extra weight on the bike during the trip.
Next step is placing the front fork back , placing the wheels and put on the ABP krümmer ( header )
The back is now completely serviced and the progressive backspring is placed.
The front forks have been cleaned.
The 12 year old OEM oil was turned into yellow syrup and smelled like sh.t
Cleaning was not a pleasent yob. Took some days.
Went for 5W because of the extra weight on the bike during the trip.
Next step is placing the front fork back , placing the wheels and put on the ABP krümmer ( header )
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Nice work even better to see the forum in use....I check several times a day hoping for new posts
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Tip for those who are also planning a long trip : start early with the preparations
Due to dental problems and the flu i lost 3 weeks.
This weekend the BRP has run for the first time since nov 2016 when i bought it. This proves i connected all the wires correct at the assembly .
I`ve put de ABP Krümmer ( header ) on and before i grinded the welding bead away. All small things help.
After that i tested the second hand acerbis 24L tank i bought and the petrol taps leaked. Had to buy 2 new ones at 19 euro each . If you have ever seen one you probably agree that production costs are max 2 euro each. Keep it in mind when you ever buy second hand (acerbis) tank for the BRP.
Then i started the modification of the seat. My wife has owned a honda XR125L ones and it had a reserve seat with it that i kept when we sold it. I have used the foam of that spare seat for my BRP saddle mod.
The bottom of the XR125 foam had to be adjusted to the pan of the BRP
For the finetuning of the foam i use a "lamellenschijf" ( could not find the english word for it ) and a grinder.
I was half way when my grinder began to produce smoke and i had to stop.
When a new grinder arrives i will post the finishing foto`s.
Due to dental problems and the flu i lost 3 weeks.
This weekend the BRP has run for the first time since nov 2016 when i bought it. This proves i connected all the wires correct at the assembly .
I`ve put de ABP Krümmer ( header ) on and before i grinded the welding bead away. All small things help.
After that i tested the second hand acerbis 24L tank i bought and the petrol taps leaked. Had to buy 2 new ones at 19 euro each . If you have ever seen one you probably agree that production costs are max 2 euro each. Keep it in mind when you ever buy second hand (acerbis) tank for the BRP.
Then i started the modification of the seat. My wife has owned a honda XR125L ones and it had a reserve seat with it that i kept when we sold it. I have used the foam of that spare seat for my BRP saddle mod.
The bottom of the XR125 foam had to be adjusted to the pan of the BRP
For the finetuning of the foam i use a "lamellenschijf" ( could not find the english word for it ) and a grinder.
I was half way when my grinder began to produce smoke and i had to stop.
When a new grinder arrives i will post the finishing foto`s.
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
lol love the stories sudden ending..... was thinking everyone had abandoned the site and only me and Hew were still around.....keep the pictures coming no matter how bad they are
Mauser- XRR Monger
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XR650R Year : 2002
Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Pictures are taken by old cellphone in the shed by TLight. Not the best surroundings for great pictures i know but it was too cold for me outside today.
New grinder will arrive this week so i can proceed soon with the saddle.
I think most of the BRP riders will return in the spring when they pull that pig out of the garage
New grinder will arrive this week so i can proceed soon with the saddle.
I think most of the BRP riders will return in the spring when they pull that pig out of the garage
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Started mine the other day, she has fuel stabiliser in during winter months to keep it fresh sounded great, just using my DT175MX at the moment to keep the spirit alive...
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Leo, "lamellenschijf" is flapperdisk - funny tools you use for foam, I hope for you it's hard enough for this?
I hope you didn't order a B&D or Skill grinder, have ooooooold T-shirts of them
I hope you didn't order a B&D or Skill grinder, have ooooooold T-shirts of them
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Mauser wrote: using my DT175MX at the moment to keep the spirit alive
Ya well now hold on bru Maus,
that's a stroker also called 'screamer'.... I hope you don't putt around on it but let the crank really spin at times?
Have a look back when you ride - if it smokes a lot whack it open for 5 minutes!
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Nahhh she's 38 years old and I hardly ever rev her more than 5-6K
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Nothing can go wrong now
In just the right colours
Tomorrow we are trying to copie this by DIY on to my BRP
In just the right colours
Tomorrow we are trying to copie this by DIY on to my BRP
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Keep piccies coming....you can do anything with a bender, a grinder & welder lol...
Mauser- XRR Monger
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
I have done my part by scanning ebay
Now its up to the welder to make something great out of it.
Now its up to the welder to make something great out of it.
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Today we made a start with the DIY pannier rack.
Next weekend we will continue
Next weekend we will continue
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Fantastic work, wouldn't let you bolt them onto my bike lol.....
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Some have installed the Globetrottin steel subframe for serieus RTW.
I wanted a solution that could easily be removed because in my trip there will be one week offroad in the french alps without all the luggage and when i decide to keep the BRP after the trip it will become my sumo / travel / enduro / dual sport / daily driver bike sometimes with the panier rack but most of the time without.
I wanted a solution that could easily be removed because in my trip there will be one week offroad in the french alps without all the luggage and when i decide to keep the BRP after the trip it will become my sumo / travel / enduro / dual sport / daily driver bike sometimes with the panier rack but most of the time without.
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Today finally made a decision on the tires i am going to use on the trip.
Read a lot on tires on the internet the past month and every time i saw a tire that looked promising the manufacturer wrote "buy my tire for 100+ euro a piece and i promise you what ever you want for at least 20.000km ".
Then i looked up the reviews and it was always the same : 50% would marry that tire and the other 50% would set it on fire.
So i fell back on the great dutch tradition : "if you can not decide .....look for the cheapest one "
And so i just bought a set Kenda K270 delivered at home for 85 euro`s.
If they s.ck i must adjust my driving style and live with it but if they are great you will be the first ones to know .
After the tire purchase i took the new grinder and the project seat out of the dark to finish the job i started a while ago.
The pictures are taken outside this time but they are still not that great aren`t they ?
Maybe i must keep my day job.
Next weekend the welder will complete the panniers.
Read a lot on tires on the internet the past month and every time i saw a tire that looked promising the manufacturer wrote "buy my tire for 100+ euro a piece and i promise you what ever you want for at least 20.000km ".
Then i looked up the reviews and it was always the same : 50% would marry that tire and the other 50% would set it on fire.
So i fell back on the great dutch tradition : "if you can not decide .....look for the cheapest one "
And so i just bought a set Kenda K270 delivered at home for 85 euro`s.
If they s.ck i must adjust my driving style and live with it but if they are great you will be the first ones to know .
After the tire purchase i took the new grinder and the project seat out of the dark to finish the job i started a while ago.
The pictures are taken outside this time but they are still not that great aren`t they ?
Maybe i must keep my day job.
Next weekend the welder will complete the panniers.
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Re: Preparing BRP for long (off)roadtrip
Today the new tires arrived.
K270 4,6*18 ( next to 4.50*18 IRC TR8 )
and 3.0*21 ( next to 3.25*21 IRC TR8 )
I bought the bike with low mileage and it turned out that the OEM tires from 2004 were still on the rims that came with the bike ( spare rims are in the bike now )
K270 4,6*18 ( next to 4.50*18 IRC TR8 )
and 3.0*21 ( next to 3.25*21 IRC TR8 )
I bought the bike with low mileage and it turned out that the OEM tires from 2004 were still on the rims that came with the bike ( spare rims are in the bike now )
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